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Britain joins in Vietnam War - which carriers and aircraft?

If Britain had decided to join the US in the Vietnam War, coinciding with the deployment of 200,000 US troops in late 1965, which carriers and aircraft would she have sent? It wasn't until early 1970...

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One slip of a key delete and its all lost.F___

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Zen9 wrote:I have trouble believing adding in a second seat is only going to add a net 100lbs. When they developed the two seater Harrier on which weight was a VERY critical issue (for V/STOL) the...

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wabpilot wrote:HK wrote:As I said, please enlighten me. I'll tell you what I know to make it easy for you to disagree.You have exhausted your humor value. Maneuverability wise, it's well known that...

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I'm looking at the carriers the British had available in the 60s and what could go on them to give a decent-sized and effective air group.Size-wise a Tiger/Skyhawk strike wing is hard to beat when...

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lhagambia wrote:The Victorious was carrying just 23 aircraft(Sea Vixens and Buccaneers) at the end - hardly a force to strike fear into anyone.  That could have been boosted dramatically with more...

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HK wrote:A good analogy for the Super Tiger vs. F-4B debate would be the F-14 vs F/A-18. The F-14 was clearly a superior interceptor, but came with a lot of caveats: it didn't always have an edge over...

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Re: Britain joins in Vietnam War - which carriers and aircraft?

lhagambia wrote:I'm looking at the carriers the British had available in the 60s and what could go on them to give a decent-sized and effective air group.The Victorious was carrying just 23...

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Wabpilot, thanks for the detailed explanation. If I understand correctly, the reason the USN absolutely needed a two-seater was to intercept low-altitude cruise missiles, which required the pilot to...

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Re: Britain joins in Vietnam War - which carriers and aircraft?

lhagambia wrote:I'm looking at the carriers the British had available in the 60s and what could go on them to give a decent-sized and effective air group.Size-wise a Tiger/Skyhawk strike wing is hard...

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Re: Britain joins in Vietnam War - which carriers and aircraft?

The Victorious was carrying just 23 aircraft(Sea Vixens and Buccaneers) at the end - hardly a force to strike fear into anyone.  That could have been boosted dramatically with more sensibly-sized...

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Re: Britain joins in Vietnam War - which carriers and aircraft?

HK wrote:Wabpilot, thanks for the detailed explanation. If I understand correctly, the reason the USN absolutely needed a two-seater was to intercept low-altitude cruise missiles, which required the...

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wabpilot wrote:HK, you miss the key point, all those interceptors and they were interceptors, were designed to operate with a GCI station that would perform most of the data processing for a...

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One data point re supersonic missiles, and not low flyers, which I've posted before. 1978. 6th Fleet flagship USS Albany is decomming her Talos systems. Fires all of them (w/o warheads) in an exercise...

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HK wrote:Wasn't USN doctrine to vector BARCAP using ship-based radar and AEW (E-1B or E-2A)? That's my understanding based on historical references to F-8s and F-4s being vectored to intercept Soviet...

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jlyons97 wrote:Lessons-learned for this ignorant Black Shoe? Get 'em before separation or you are not going to get them at all.I think we would have done better than that. Often we did. But, you are...

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Britain did make its best contribution by staying out of Veitnam pity the current Labour Govts haven't the sense Wilson and Heath had. They did RAS the Australian groups going to Veitnam.

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Obi Wan Russell wrote:Actual combat experience in Vietnam may have proven beneficial to the RN had it occured. The Sea Vixen was originally designed with four 20mm cannon and the prototypes were...

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While reading all this I just remembered this: HMS Ark Royal was in Valetta one sunny afternoon in 1970, when the US 6th fleet dropped in for tea and biscuits (or as we Indians put in Chai Biskoot)....

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Epic Love it...

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